The subject of Danièle Huillet and Jean-Marie Straub’s Der Tod des Empedokles (The Death of Empedocles, 1987) is the Greek pre-Socratic philosopher Empedocles (c. 490 BC – 430 BC), who lived in the Greek colony of Agrigentum in Sicily. His theories are mentioned in several of Plato’s dialogues. He maintained that all matter is made up of four irreducible elements: water, earth, air and fire. A mystic and a poet, he is considered to be the founder of classical rhetoric. He is also thought to be the last Greek philosopher to write in verse; two fragments of his works survive: Katharmoi (Purifications) and Peri Phuseôs (On Nature). An advocate of democracy, he came into conflict with his fellow citizens of Agrigentum and, as result, was banished with his young disciple, Pausanius. When he was asked to return, he preferred to commit suicide by throwing himself into the active volcano at Mount Aetna.
The German writer Friedrich Hölderlin wrote two versions of Der Tod des Empedokles in 1798 and 1800, and a final third version in 1820, all three ultimately unfinished. They were conceived as five-act tragedies and all three differ in plot. According to Michael Hamburger, Hölderlin’s English-language translator,
the main reason why Hölderlin finished no version of the play must be that he remained too closely identified with Empedocles, at the very period in his life when his own view of the poet as philosopher, prophet and priest – and as tragic hero – was subject to perpetual crisis and re-examination.
Huillet-Straub’s The Death of Empedocles is based on Hölderlin’s first version (the longest of the three), whereas Black Sin is based on the third version.
3.5/母亲节前后放映很应景；生命就是一种母婴遗传病，治好了就是《turning red》，治不好就是这部片子或者《黑天鹅》（不是……影片中的符号都比较好理解，男性也一如既往地充当着或怯懦或随和的背景板；可能对于已经变得cynical的观众来说，这类主题和表现方式已经很难造成什么感官之外的触动了……
题材、画面都属于“中规中矩的别有心裁”，一般般吧。
看着是自己孵化了自己，内涵挺多，但是我不喜欢
北欧的恐怖片总是能用清新的色调和舒缓的节奏来实现那种诡谲怪异的惊悚效果。女儿孵化出来的“怪物”是想要一个在如此庞大压力下感同身受的同伴，妈妈“孵化”出来的女儿是想要一个能够弥补她自己人生遗憾的替代品，或许只有那个“怪物”，只是单纯地被七情六欲所驱使，想体验那种为人的感觉吧。
完成度很高的惊悚家庭片。虎妈+自由出轨的一家之主妈，封闭自我甩手掌柜的爸，女儿想把妈妈的婚外情告诉爸爸，结果爸爸沉浸在自己的世界压根不打算管，好真实…妈妈失恋的模样也好真实，弟弟的心机也好真实
童年回忆 拍给80后看的还是给下一代看的呢 现在小孩儿应该不是唯成绩论了
符号，隐喻，文艺惊悚片，病态马基雅维利的母亲孵化了暗黑性格的女儿。
Body horror的展现好像深得柯南伯格亲传，客体又是女孩，自然引发更强的恐惧体验。母题是非常传统的控制-反抗主干，爱的畸变比怪物更可怖。双重孵化关系，母亲失败，女儿成功，代价无可逆转，结局的安排充满宿命般的悲剧色彩，但表现手法稚嫩且单薄，没能增添悲剧的厚重感。
从《群鸟》到《孵化》，鸟是最黑暗恐怖的意象。
学校着火之前差不多是个社会问题片的路子，问题提得好（当然台词刻意了），一个道德绑架环环追问的段落把教育困境推到了家庭和社会层面。不过只见一针不见血。高潮和结尾回归空话煽情了。一场大火患难见真情，一切问题随之灰飞烟灭了——火烧眉毛 且顾眼前，也是现实一种。
把现实的教育制度抨击的恰到好处，罐头小人充满了惊喜，感觉约翰真的是太可爱了。这部片子不仅仅让我们眼前一亮，更是让我们收获很多感动！如此看来，我国的童话故事可以在世界上有一席之地了👍🏻
挺失望的，感觉改编的很奇怪，真人出演也是很硬拗
根本不知道看了个啥玩意。能明白导演借助孵化这个形式表达变态的家庭关系，还有青春期对自我的追寻，但方法真的太奇怪了我不理解。
再次呼吁关注家庭关系和亲子关系。有些父母总说自己的孩子长着长着就变成了怪物，殊不知是自己自己酿出的苦果。不过影片的一大bug就是既然和老公无爱，又怎么搞出了老二？？
小三竟然是片子里唯一的正常人┓(´∀`)┏
挺ok的~坐旁边的小朋友们看得又开心又揪心，还有不时听到妈妈们说：宝贝，成绩好不好没关系，你怎么样爸爸妈妈都爱你~靠谱成年人看更有收获，顺便还能收获一堆美好~作者彩蛋好玩。p.s.皮皮鲁一哭阿拉心都碎了，多可爱的娃啊QAQ
北欧国家总是能把一个还不错的恐怖题材拍的又拖又无聊
其实有点无聊。因为剧情实在太简单了，简单到可以预见结局，这种怪异变种看多了就这样
带三年级的儿子一起看的，80后的我看哭了好几次。儿子之前已经在书上看过这个故事，说真人演的童话比动画片好看。感谢郑渊洁童话给了我美好有趣的我的童年。
看似温馨美好的家庭，实则早已支离破碎，控制欲强且望女成凤的母亲，孤戾不合群的女儿，自我为中心的弟弟，懦弱无能的父亲。
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