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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
3/5，这片就写了能算出牌却预见不到眼前人的命运，感觉牌技大佬这条线没啥卵用啊，科普了那么多赌博方法，我看的一脸冷漠～～～
（不知所云之下气氛和节奏却很好）（奥爹太帅了吧！！！！！！！！！！！！！！）（不得不说他的狠脸又脆弱的样子让这部片子的可信度提高了许多）
7/10 全方位不如《第一归正会》，赌场是施拉德随手抓的一个类型元素么？
像《出租车司机》一个社会边缘愤怒而忧伤的人，又像《海边的曼彻斯特》一个困在悲惨回忆中的人。有胡子的奥斯卡和没胡子的奥斯卡完全是两个人。
Oscar Isaac is FINEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
只是单纯觉得既然叫The Card Counter那这个身份还有设计的赌博元素应该有更实际的意义才对。总觉得这部分跟救赎部分融合的并不很好。
要么老老实实拍玩牌，要么老老实实拍复仇，这又是复仇又是玩牌。。。
7.5 施拉德赋予的独特气质，使其不同于其他美国电影。
还算不错，就是最后的结局有点意外，报个仇还把自己搭进去了，不是应该潇洒离去，逍遥法外的吗？
“I don’t play celebrity gambling,I play anonymous gambling”
有神秘感，好演员。让观众能够跟随电影的情节。ptsd很可怕，参与其中的每个人都是受害者。
很有腔调的一部电影，就即便单独把算牌人的戏份拍出来，没有救赎的戏份都是很酷的，加上以后以及结尾，真的就很累赘了。影片节奏还是偏慢了一点。
本质上我觉得是过去创伤与自我救赎外加提了一下美军逼供，披了个打牌的皮。主人公很挣扎拧巴，看的我也很挣扎，在还可以-一般-其实还可以-真的一般之间来回挣扎。
45/100。起码这次能够提炼出一个清晰的主题了，那种在承受巨大痛苦之后无法扭转的后果不至于无法被捕捉到。然而跟《第一归正会》的问题还是一模一样，保罗·施拉德始终把自己凌驾在观众的承受范围之上，想呈现的效果从来不考虑是否能够产生效果，所以我们依然看到的依然是一团浆糊似的东西，漫长无趣的牌桌现场和毫无明确的人物刻画在呆板的镜头下让人无法忍受，在吃到糖果前被灌了一嘴苦瓜的感觉真的很不好。以及全片依然过于依赖演员，从伊桑·霍克到奥斯卡·伊萨克，导演你真的能独立行走吗？Ps.奥斯卡的角色显然比伊桑的更具魅力，有颜有肉让这个可以打入深渊的故事不至于即刻死绝。 @2021-09-22 22:36:44
隐藏在赌桌之下的复仇，但并没有激昂的情节，相当克制甚至拖沓，
从头喊到尾的usa，最后监狱成为归宿，一边反思一边讽刺，像是没有力气了。
就，看到最后二三十分钟前其实都还不错，结尾拍的太空了（？就让整部电影显得有点弱智起来……
无法理解这种电影在拍什么也很难理解我为什么要浪费两个小时来看这种伪赌博下的慢叙事。will的内心戏极其丰富，奥斯卡依萨克的表演特别稳，又帅又迷人。算牌人的自我救赎和轮回境遇，最后就如同开始的一脸疑惑和最后的一脸困惑一样他们对视。
放下仇恨，不是放过仇人，而是放过自己。很难，但如果真的做到了，自己的生命就重回到阳光下。仇人，它就像一坨屎，它臭它死，再也不重要了。做人，要为自己而活，苦痛的回忆，就让它随风而去吧……
就是这个导演！能把他的所有主角都拍成beta（褒义
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