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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
我觉得拍的很好，看到1/3以为是雌竞，看到2/3时以为是复仇爽剧，终究没有落俗。
其实是个挺简单的故事，但这个设定很有意思是，确实值得思考 当你的家人朋友看到了一个性格更好的你是不是会做一个选择，在一年的COMBAT的训练中 其实她已经在改变了 变成一个更加可爱的人 但替身也在进化（暗黑的方向） 这算不算一种劣币驱逐良品
比起自卫的艺术，属于是我无法get到点的黑色幽默。
本尊要假装自己是假扮本尊的克隆人继续活下去 好可怜
冷漠、自私、草率、薄情的情绪铺得很满，最后的开放性结局辐射面很大。替身蓄谋毒杀、或者是本身识破阴谋后反杀，这两个结局都造就了片尾的崩溃情绪。看起来不知所云实际上涵义颇深，大约就是看自己怎么去理解了。如此一样样病态的社会现象，却是值得深思的…
最后结局有点东西，但看了遍讨论区，怎么会有那么多人喜欢装逼过度解读。人家导演编剧都各种暗示了，还强行说活下来的是本体，这又不是禁闭岛的开放式结局，有必要么- -......
有两处跳跃太快:一是克隆体怎么出来的，就切了个画面回来，一个大活人就出来了，如果这么快代谢速度成长，死亡也会很快吧；二是在森林里本体口出血后就直接跳到比赛场了，也不知道车子怎么残的，腿怎么崴的。看了很多人的分析，我觉得就从吃的喜好就能判断出来了，本体喜欢墨西哥菜，克隆喜欢法国菜。因此，脑补的结局就是，本体喝了克隆的水后中毒，锻炼了一年的战斗技巧施展不开，被克隆体干掉后穿着本体的衣服来到赛场，事后男友问去吃墨西哥菜吗，克隆肯定回答不吃，克隆由于开车不熟练（克隆和本体在车上曾一起聊过开车，本体算是客观上教了克隆开车），起步时顿挫几下慢慢就好了，但听完妈妈的录音，知道妈妈原来知道自己是克隆的但还要帮助自己（男友估计不知道），替本体不值，最后车子停的地方一看就是逆行，也推断出克隆不懂交通规则。
克隆体用计谋杀了真身，伪装成真身活在世上。设置有意思，低成本投入。
立意不错 维一个接受真实自己的人被自己杀死了
导演很会讲故事，剧情有几次反转，内容前半部分类似天鹅挽歌，女主的故事很悲剧，活得没有自我，如同工具人，但还是为了生存努力奋斗。小粉出场带有喜感，让人忍俊不住。结局开放，引人思考！一部有趣的电影。
本体赢了，却很难受。因为她在演克隆体。可老公，母亲都喜欢克隆体。所以她哭了。
这是一个绝对被低估的片，为什么人们看到悬疑惊悚片就不习惯给高分？同样的点子，这片各方各面不比天鹅挽歌好多了？
拍摄成本应该很低吧，但我喜欢这个故事。每个人的一生是独一无二的，如果可以替代，那太糟糕了
平静的表面下波涛汹涌，荒谬的情节令人细思极恐，这两年有几部不错的关于克隆的伦理悖论困境的片子，大多表现都还不错，挺好玩的
剧情很特别，冲突面营造地也不错，就是细节处理一般，还可以。
诶 这个和Swan Song哪个早呢 连续两部基因复制人的电影
复制人代替本体这种设定已经不稀奇了，导演表达观点我还是挺喜欢，不管你是复制还是本体最后都是一样的人生。
本体应该跟医院医生决斗，赢了的话，由医院支付复制体的抚养费
故事还挺有意思的，本体和克隆人只能活一个，通过决斗定死活。有点反乌托邦的设定，但重心还是放在这个高概念故事下的人物抉择上。最后没等来一场决斗有点泄气。
很多冷幽默，还挺有意思，最后的开放式结局，想要解读也各有趣味。
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