The subject of Danièle Huillet and Jean-Marie Straub’s Der Tod des Empedokles (The Death of Empedocles, 1987) is the Greek pre-Socratic philosopher Empedocles (c. 490 BC – 430 BC), who lived in the Greek colony of Agrigentum in Sicily. His theories are mentioned in several of Plato’s dialogues. He maintained that all matter is made up of four irreducible elements: water, earth, air and fire. A mystic and a poet, he is considered to be the founder of classical rhetoric. He is also thought to be the last Greek philosopher to write in verse; two fragments of his works survive: Katharmoi (Purifications) and Peri Phuseôs (On Nature). An advocate of democracy, he came into conflict with his fellow citizens of Agrigentum and, as result, was banished with his young disciple, Pausanius. When he was asked to return, he preferred to commit suicide by throwing himself into the active volcano at Mount Aetna.
The German writer Friedrich Hölderlin wrote two versions of Der Tod des Empedokles in 1798 and 1800, and a final third version in 1820, all three ultimately unfinished. They were conceived as five-act tragedies and all three differ in plot. According to Michael Hamburger, Hölderlin’s English-language translator,
the main reason why Hölderlin finished no version of the play must be that he remained too closely identified with Empedocles, at the very period in his life when his own view of the poet as philosopher, prophet and priest – and as tragic hero – was subject to perpetual crisis and re-examination.
Huillet-Straub’s The Death of Empedocles is based on Hölderlin’s first version (the longest of the three), whereas Black Sin is based on the third version.
这故事套路，设定奇怪，世界观倒是让人有点好奇，但没讲多少。所以，看不看随你，“朋友”。
追忆这个题材，本来可以做的更好，回忆机器是个美妙的点，但故事实在是太拧巴了，越往后看越觉得疲沓，可惜了了。女主的美背值得一赞，吴彦祖连花瓶都不是了。
两星半。无趣。真不愧是诺兰弟妹作导演，诺兰味太冲了。但在高概念的设定下却是人物行为逻辑和叙事的混乱，看似十分多的感情戏下却是空洞无物的内核和情感表达。这些在真正的诺兰电影里都不会出现，只得其形未得其意（而且把缺点集大成这件事我是没想到的）。
想念人是这世界的一部分 没有那种悲伤 你就尝不出甜蜜 对的 思念的时候 我们都是那可怜的龟孙子
方方面面都有点诺兰的味道，记忆、时间、迷局、世界观、信息量巨大的台词、难看的动作戏，未来威尼斯和Rebecca一样美丽，结尾Orpheus和Eurydice的故事点睛，第一次觉得这个故事好浪漫，少有的偏执地活在过去的故事吖，是献给所有爱怀旧的人的情书
Teen age级别的剧本，Intern级别的导演，Light user级别的文案。全靠卡司、特效和设定支撑起来的弱智悬疑。世界观如此之恢宏，故事格局如此之狭隘。叙事荒谬，节奏像个装了起搏器的濒死老头儿一样看着都让人胸闷（天呐我到底看了个啥）...
是的，有些人活在过去，有些人活在现在，有些人活在将来。
未来水世界+马戏之王+西部世界，这是什么逻辑？剧情设定太乱，吴彦祖演个配角，他说的中文我一个字都没听懂
因为休杰克曼才下载看的这部，整体上感觉一般。也就是一部记忆类电影，利用记忆作为题材的科幻片已经屡见不鲜了，这类电影是拥有可以任意剧情反转的特权，因为记忆本来就是主观的，人物善恶当然也就随着剧场可以不断反转了。而这部中，女主利用训练记忆欺骗男主的剧场说服力不强，是一个比较大的hug
It's us who haunt the past.
就是方方面面都差点儿意思 而且让人觉得这个post-apocalypic world还挺好住的？？（黑人问号脸） 另：吴彦祖! Gao Su Wo, 你说这种奇怪的话你不难受吗peng you！
还以为是10年前的电影，没想到是2021年的。故事还不错，一个转折，一个升华，就足够了，最后隔梦相见那段确实好看，瞬间升华。吴彦祖演得很好，口语没毛病，英文和中文都很标准，串在一起也很顺，边境集中营逃出来的流氓痞子，把角色拿捏得很到位，该帅帅，该痞痞，该流氓流氓。怎么，说中文夹杂英文就可以，说英文夹杂中文就不行？何况已经有外国人说话夹杂中文了，现在有很多外国人会说中文但又说不全中文，所以很正常，不用大惊小怪，不习惯的以后慢慢习惯。推荐观看。
The story is kind of cliche love story and I was bored a bit. The fighting scenes are joking, or maybe it's just how people fight and react in that dystopian near-future. But oh God! Hugh Jackman is officially the sexy God for me now! His voice, his face and body have turned me on so much! (2021/08/28 13:25)
美国迈阿密成了水上哥谭，金刚狼和<马戏之王>的女歌手再续前缘，末世感的设定掩盖不住小家子气的内核，片子披着诺兰的外壳讲了一个拖沓的悬疑爱情故事
故事其实还是个好故事，但是感觉片子没有很好地把这个剧本给利用起来，剧情的推进有些杂乱以及略显生硬。好几位《西部世界》里的演员，里面Watts（西部世界里的梅芙演员扮演）女儿的设定应该也是和《西部世界》遥相呼应了一下，片尾Watts的孙女都有了，弥补了《西部世界》里梅芙被设定记忆一直欺骗却仍选择相信自己拥有女儿这件事的遗憾。
1这片子竟然不满星？？ 涓滴效应 + 房地产商欺压百姓被团灭+无政府主义, 打倒无良房地产hh. 2能反复重温和逝去爱人的回忆, 有什么比这更残酷又美好. 3.这卡司简直是西部世界团建? 4彦祖中英混杂的一句王八蛋给我听笑了 关于后两点,看一眼导演就懂了, 丽萨有点东西. 评论区有人拿导演性别说事, 真的恶臭.
这本子不错，特别是悬疑部分，层层推进，非线性、碎片化地追溯和拼凑过去。高潮部分Mae对杀手倾诉的桥段很有灵性，信任与爱让她打破时空的桎梏，与狼叔完成爱的告别。
总觉得有些刻意，情节过渡不太顺。不过环境塑造非常有特点，全球变暖、海平面上升后的景象还是蛮贴切未来的。“用记忆回放做噱头”这个点子大大降低了观影门槛，即用线性叙事的宏观结构来呈现非线性叙事。
制作没的说，就是这个故事每十分钟让人出戏一次，最后硬生生的成了个喜剧片。
that‘s goupi，my pengyou
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